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		<title>By: lyqwyd</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2010/02/22/is-the-oakland-airport-connector-dead/#comment-8349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lyqwyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David

OAC:
~ $500 million
~ the same number of riders 
~ the same trip time (8 minutes is an old number after massive budget overruns it&#039;s now over 12 minutes, at the same time, traffic has eased so the bus is now faster)

&quot;I support the connector, provided that it is done in a way that is efficient, convenient, and leads to growth at OAK.&quot;

That&#039;s the problem, the original project was fine, the overbudget underperforming project as it exists is by no means efficient or convenient, it&#039;s just a lot of money spent for no real benefit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David</p>
<p>OAC:<br />
~ $500 million<br />
~ the same number of riders<br />
~ the same trip time (8 minutes is an old number after massive budget overruns it&#8217;s now over 12 minutes, at the same time, traffic has eased so the bus is now faster)</p>
<p>&#8220;I support the connector, provided that it is done in a way that is efficient, convenient, and leads to growth at OAK.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem, the original project was fine, the overbudget underperforming project as it exists is by no means efficient or convenient, it&#8217;s just a lot of money spent for no real benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2010/02/22/is-the-oakland-airport-connector-dead/#comment-8342</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I support the connector, provided that it is done in a way that is efficient, convenient, and leads to growth at OAK.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s just the thing... it won&#039;t.  It will barely even have any effect on transit share on the Hegenberger corridor, let alone growth at the Oakland Airport.  Even BART has admitted this.  The OAC is dependent on the Airport passenger volumes -- not the other way around.

&lt;i&gt;Those advocates who kept whining about it not making multiple stops were being ignorant (or forgetful) of AC Transit already doing that…he-lloooo.&lt;/i&gt;

I disagree on this point.  Fixed guideway transit spurs transit-oriented development in a way that a standard bus line cannot.  Each intermediate station offers the chance good for TOD and urban design that will improve and lift the neighborhood.  An elevated Connector with no intermediate station only casts shadows while carrying zero benefit for the neighborhood.  It makes no sense to spend so much money for a transit project that would (i) provide no transit benefit and (ii) provide no economic development benefit.  But that&#039;s exactly where we are now.

Moreover, it limits the type of rider that will use the OAC.  If you have stations with new development, you enhance the transit corridor with ridership that uses those stations, rather than just the Airport.  An OAC with no intermediate stations can only serve one transit purpose, and its ridership will suffer as a result.  But ridership suffering --&gt; even higher fares (assuming BART can even get the TIFIA loan), because BART will have to use fare revenue to pay back the loan. 

&lt;i&gt;With a bid $60M less than projected, I am hoping that BART doesn’t fudge this up again too.&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately, that bid will bid result in a slow, clumsy project.  But that&#039;s the only bid that BART could afford (assuming it had the full set of federal funding that it has now been denied).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I support the connector, provided that it is done in a way that is efficient, convenient, and leads to growth at OAK.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the thing&#8230; it won&#8217;t.  It will barely even have any effect on transit share on the Hegenberger corridor, let alone growth at the Oakland Airport.  Even BART has admitted this.  The OAC is dependent on the Airport passenger volumes &#8212; not the other way around.</p>
<p><i>Those advocates who kept whining about it not making multiple stops were being ignorant (or forgetful) of AC Transit already doing that…he-lloooo.</i></p>
<p>I disagree on this point.  Fixed guideway transit spurs transit-oriented development in a way that a standard bus line cannot.  Each intermediate station offers the chance good for TOD and urban design that will improve and lift the neighborhood.  An elevated Connector with no intermediate station only casts shadows while carrying zero benefit for the neighborhood.  It makes no sense to spend so much money for a transit project that would (i) provide no transit benefit and (ii) provide no economic development benefit.  But that&#8217;s exactly where we are now.</p>
<p>Moreover, it limits the type of rider that will use the OAC.  If you have stations with new development, you enhance the transit corridor with ridership that uses those stations, rather than just the Airport.  An OAC with no intermediate stations can only serve one transit purpose, and its ridership will suffer as a result.  But ridership suffering &#8211;&gt; even higher fares (assuming BART can even get the TIFIA loan), because BART will have to use fare revenue to pay back the loan. </p>
<p><i>With a bid $60M less than projected, I am hoping that BART doesn’t fudge this up again too.</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately, that bid will bid result in a slow, clumsy project.  But that&#8217;s the only bid that BART could afford (assuming it had the full set of federal funding that it has now been denied).</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2010/02/22/is-the-oakland-airport-connector-dead/#comment-8341</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Cat with 9 lives&quot; metaphor is an interesting one.  It seems also, that the media really used poor wording when the $70M was denied.  CBS5, for example, had their reporter (or he chose to use the words) that the project is &quot;dead&quot;...such a load of crap. For a reporter to be so naïve to say something that premature makes me wonder where they come from.
I support the connector, provided that it is done in a way that is efficient, convenient, and leads to growth at OAK.  Those advocates who kept whining about it not making multiple stops were being ignorant (or forgetful) of AC Transit already doing that...he-lloooo.  The connector--in hopes that it succeeds--should get passengers between the BART station and OAK in no more than 8 minutes, as planned.  With a bid $60M less than projected, I am hoping that BART doesn&#039;t fudge this up again too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Cat with 9 lives&#8221; metaphor is an interesting one.  It seems also, that the media really used poor wording when the $70M was denied.  CBS5, for example, had their reporter (or he chose to use the words) that the project is &#8220;dead&#8221;&#8230;such a load of crap. For a reporter to be so naïve to say something that premature makes me wonder where they come from.<br />
I support the connector, provided that it is done in a way that is efficient, convenient, and leads to growth at OAK.  Those advocates who kept whining about it not making multiple stops were being ignorant (or forgetful) of AC Transit already doing that&#8230;he-lloooo.  The connector&#8211;in hopes that it succeeds&#8211;should get passengers between the BART station and OAK in no more than 8 minutes, as planned.  With a bid $60M less than projected, I am hoping that BART doesn&#8217;t fudge this up again too.</p>
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		<title>By: lyqwyd</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2010/02/22/is-the-oakland-airport-connector-dead/#comment-8335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lyqwyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to know what BART/MTC is going to do with the rest of the money that&#039;s been allocated to the OAC. Are they going to sit on it while looking for more funding for OAC or repurpose it for other projects that can break ground ASAP?

If it&#039;s the former, then they are the ones responsible for jobs not being created.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know what BART/MTC is going to do with the rest of the money that&#8217;s been allocated to the OAC. Are they going to sit on it while looking for more funding for OAC or repurpose it for other projects that can break ground ASAP?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the former, then they are the ones responsible for jobs not being created.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeOnBike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeOnBike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure the OAC is still a &quot;rail&quot; project, or if it ever was.  I think they&#039;re talking rubber-tired people-mover cars pulled by cable.

Should this even be a BART project?  It seems airports usually build their own people-movers, like the one at SFO that connects BART to the terminals and rental cars.  And I don&#039;t think people-movers usually charge $12 round trip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure the OAC is still a &#8220;rail&#8221; project, or if it ever was.  I think they&#8217;re talking rubber-tired people-mover cars pulled by cable.</p>
<p>Should this even be a BART project?  It seems airports usually build their own people-movers, like the one at SFO that connects BART to the terminals and rental cars.  And I don&#8217;t think people-movers usually charge $12 round trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While Title VI was clearly quite helpful in this case to block the funding, it isn&#039;t a magic bullet, and it has plenty of limitations.  That&#039;s not to say it won&#039;t play a role in the future; only to say that MTC and BART still have options open to them, particularly over a longer time scale.  Title VI and similar mechanisms are forced to take an oblique approach because the federal government doesn&#039;t pass rigorous judgment on local transit projects.  Other FTA requirements, by the way, are structured so as to actually encourage &quot;non-Title VI&quot; projects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Title VI was clearly quite helpful in this case to block the funding, it isn&#8217;t a magic bullet, and it has plenty of limitations.  That&#8217;s not to say it won&#8217;t play a role in the future; only to say that MTC and BART still have options open to them, particularly over a longer time scale.  Title VI and similar mechanisms are forced to take an oblique approach because the federal government doesn&#8217;t pass rigorous judgment on local transit projects.  Other FTA requirements, by the way, are structured so as to actually encourage &#8220;non-Title VI&#8221; projects.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2010/02/22/is-the-oakland-airport-connector-dead/#comment-8330</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BART should have done a better job planning for this and made the necessary adjustments to comply with the act. 

A rail connection to Oakland Airport is beneficial overall, it will help to put the entire Bay Area, including Oakland, at a competitive advantage as we integrate our transit hubs. I can only hope that BART can&#039;t screw this up any more than it has already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BART should have done a better job planning for this and made the necessary adjustments to comply with the act. </p>
<p>A rail connection to Oakland Airport is beneficial overall, it will help to put the entire Bay Area, including Oakland, at a competitive advantage as we integrate our transit hubs. I can only hope that BART can&#8217;t screw this up any more than it has already.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan from Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan from Berkeley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, OAC has seemed like a bad monster movie all along, so it shouldn&#039;t surprise us if the apparently-dead monster rouses one more time before we can finally put a stake through its heart.

Fortunately Title VI is a good candidate to create that stake -- especially since the MTC has been told by the Feds that it needs to both pay attention to its grantees and also comply in its own process and funding choices.

Both BART and its MTC overlord have been notorious for approving mainly gold-plated projects that run through or past poor neighborhoods to benefit rich mostly-white suburbanite commuters -- not exactly what Title VI had in mind.

Which explains why, for example, the East Bay BRT project has become an MTC (and just recently FTA) funded darling.  Linking three actual center-cities (San Leandro, Oakland and Berkeley), getting this actually built can give the MTC a &quot;see -- we get it&quot; excuse that might help divert unwanted attention from the other bad stuff they&#039;re still approving. The tragedy is that a better OAC project also &quot;coulda been a contender, instead of a bum.&quot;

So the thing with Title VI and BART, the MTC and the OAC is this: finally &quot;completing&quot; the OAC Title VI analysis after &quot;inadvertently failing to do so in time&quot; is only the beginning of the problems for the OAC.  They have to deliver a complete, accurate and unbiased analysis of community impacts -- and if they do so they will be &quot;surprised to learn&quot; that the impacts are severe and the only adequate mitigation is to scrap the OAC choo-choo train in favor of the cheaper, lower-fare, better-service and faster BRT alternative that actually stops in the local community along the way.

This now looks to be pretty much baked in the cake.  We only need to keep up the pressure, so that in the end we can help provide the hammer for that decisive stake in the heart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, OAC has seemed like a bad monster movie all along, so it shouldn&#8217;t surprise us if the apparently-dead monster rouses one more time before we can finally put a stake through its heart.</p>
<p>Fortunately Title VI is a good candidate to create that stake &#8212; especially since the MTC has been told by the Feds that it needs to both pay attention to its grantees and also comply in its own process and funding choices.</p>
<p>Both BART and its MTC overlord have been notorious for approving mainly gold-plated projects that run through or past poor neighborhoods to benefit rich mostly-white suburbanite commuters &#8212; not exactly what Title VI had in mind.</p>
<p>Which explains why, for example, the East Bay BRT project has become an MTC (and just recently FTA) funded darling.  Linking three actual center-cities (San Leandro, Oakland and Berkeley), getting this actually built can give the MTC a &#8220;see &#8212; we get it&#8221; excuse that might help divert unwanted attention from the other bad stuff they&#8217;re still approving. The tragedy is that a better OAC project also &#8220;coulda been a contender, instead of a bum.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the thing with Title VI and BART, the MTC and the OAC is this: finally &#8220;completing&#8221; the OAC Title VI analysis after &#8220;inadvertently failing to do so in time&#8221; is only the beginning of the problems for the OAC.  They have to deliver a complete, accurate and unbiased analysis of community impacts &#8212; and if they do so they will be &#8220;surprised to learn&#8221; that the impacts are severe and the only adequate mitigation is to scrap the OAC choo-choo train in favor of the cheaper, lower-fare, better-service and faster BRT alternative that actually stops in the local community along the way.</p>
<p>This now looks to be pretty much baked in the cake.  We only need to keep up the pressure, so that in the end we can help provide the hammer for that decisive stake in the heart.</p>
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