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	<title>Comments on: Peninsula Investments</title>
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		<title>By: High-Speed Rail Stimulus Grants Announced &#171; Transbay Blog</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-8199</link>
		<dc:creator>High-Speed Rail Stimulus Grants Announced &#171; Transbay Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heads to produce the Peninsula Corridor Investment Strategy.  The result of that effort was a recommended list of projects, of varying levels of utility, that would begin the process of preparing the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trans-Beale Terminal &#171; Transbay Blog</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7808</link>
		<dc:creator>Trans-Beale Terminal &#171; Transbay Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has submitted project requests to the U.S. Department of Transportation, including a $400 million request that, if granted, would allow the Transbay Transit Center&#8217;s train box to be excavated sooner [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has submitted project requests to the U.S. Department of Transportation, including a $400 million request that, if granted, would allow the Transbay Transit Center&#8217;s train box to be excavated sooner [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7536</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hence my usage of the word &quot;if.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hence my usage of the word &#8220;if.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeOnBike</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7535</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeOnBike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda said &quot;If BART had been completed down the peninsula to at least Palo Alto (preferably SJ) years ago&quot;

San Mateo County opted out of the BART system before it was even voted on, so wishing for BART to Palo Alto is going to require a DeLorean and a flux capacitor.

If SM Co had stayed in, it&#039;s possible the vote would have failed and there&#039;d be no BART at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda said &#8220;If BART had been completed down the peninsula to at least Palo Alto (preferably SJ) years ago&#8221;</p>
<p>San Mateo County opted out of the BART system before it was even voted on, so wishing for BART to Palo Alto is going to require a DeLorean and a flux capacitor.</p>
<p>If SM Co had stayed in, it&#8217;s possible the vote would have failed and there&#8217;d be no BART at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7534</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If BART had been completed down the peninsula to at least Palo Alto (preferably SJ) years ago, and Caltrain was scrapped, I&#039;d much prefer that to the current option. Not having to transfer to BART/MUNI in the city, as well as the ability to get to the East Bay in one shot without having to transfer would be well worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If BART had been completed down the peninsula to at least Palo Alto (preferably SJ) years ago, and Caltrain was scrapped, I&#8217;d much prefer that to the current option. Not having to transfer to BART/MUNI in the city, as well as the ability to get to the East Bay in one shot without having to transfer would be well worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7444</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a similar topic, Don Perata recently wrote an amusing letter to MTC about the OAC, Bart and Bay Area Transportation planning in general.  I wrote about it at http://21stcenturyurbansolutions.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/perata-understands-transportation-planning-definitely-not/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a similar topic, Don Perata recently wrote an amusing letter to MTC about the OAC, Bart and Bay Area Transportation planning in general.  I wrote about it at <a href="http://21stcenturyurbansolutions.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/perata-understands-transportation-planning-definitely-not/" rel="nofollow">http://21stcenturyurbansolutions.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/perata-understands-transportation-planning-definitely-not/</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7433</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the VTA go so far as to order rolling stock for service to Fremont back in 1998 or so? Allegedly that&#039;s where a few of Metrolink&#039;s locomotives came from. Imagine that: we could have had decent commuter rail service to the East Bay for 10 years now. But instead we get a promise of BART in 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the VTA go so far as to order rolling stock for service to Fremont back in 1998 or so? Allegedly that&#8217;s where a few of Metrolink&#8217;s locomotives came from. Imagine that: we could have had decent commuter rail service to the East Bay for 10 years now. But instead we get a promise of BART in 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrett at HumanTransit.org</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7432</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrett at HumanTransit.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update.  Were it not for HSR, it&#039;s clear this whole conversation would be about where it was when I was an activist almost 20 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update.  Were it not for HSR, it&#8217;s clear this whole conversation would be about where it was when I was an activist almost 20 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7430</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burns conceded a completion date of 2025, so probably even later. Of course, if San Jose were willing to &quot;stoop to the level&quot; of a commuter rail substitute, they&#039;d get the service up and running on a faster timeline, and there would be service to Cahill St. instead of just Flea Market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burns conceded a completion date of 2025, so probably even later. Of course, if San Jose were willing to &#8220;stoop to the level&#8221; of a commuter rail substitute, they&#8217;d get the service up and running on a faster timeline, and there would be service to Cahill St. instead of just Flea Market.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/17/peninsula-investments/#comment-7429</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget Redwood City and Millbrae.

I did find it ironic that when all is said and done, Caltrain will be electrified and converted into an urban metro service at least seven years before Bart to San Jose is completed (2025 or later?).  By then you should be able to travel from SJ-SF in 45-50 minutes by Caltrain and 30 minutes by HSR, while Bart will take 1hr30mins (with Bart and Caltrain having roughly equal frequencies and fares).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget Redwood City and Millbrae.</p>
<p>I did find it ironic that when all is said and done, Caltrain will be electrified and converted into an urban metro service at least seven years before Bart to San Jose is completed (2025 or later?).  By then you should be able to travel from SJ-SF in 45-50 minutes by Caltrain and 30 minutes by HSR, while Bart will take 1hr30mins (with Bart and Caltrain having roughly equal frequencies and fares).</p>
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