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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies to anonymouse and whoever else might have been waiting: it slipped my mind that I hadn&#039;t made that small correction to VTA yet, but it&#039;s corrected, and the link is updated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to anonymouse and whoever else might have been waiting: it slipped my mind that I hadn&#8217;t made that small correction to VTA yet, but it&#8217;s corrected, and the link is updated.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ben,

Plans for Capitol LRT did briefly consider a Capitol/Guadalupe connector track, though nothing was formally approved on that. It would be a good feature, but it didn&#039;t seem that important for this map, because with VTA&#039;s funding priorities, who knows if we&#039;ll even see this line at all? Still, since you&#039;ve made the request, I&#039;ll try to remember to include it in a future version.

I still think the biggest LRT-related missed opportunity in San Jose is not so much further extensions into sprawl, but postponing LRT on Santa Clara-Alum Rock, which is one of the more urban areas in San Jose, could actually use the upgrade, and would be useful operationally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p>
<p>Plans for Capitol LRT did briefly consider a Capitol/Guadalupe connector track, though nothing was formally approved on that. It would be a good feature, but it didn&#8217;t seem that important for this map, because with VTA&#8217;s funding priorities, who knows if we&#8217;ll even see this line at all? Still, since you&#8217;ve made the request, I&#8217;ll try to remember to include it in a future version.</p>
<p>I still think the biggest LRT-related missed opportunity in San Jose is not so much further extensions into sprawl, but postponing LRT on Santa Clara-Alum Rock, which is one of the more urban areas in San Jose, could actually use the upgrade, and would be useful operationally.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Pease</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Pease]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great map!

Two missed opportunities. First, VTA&#039;s Capitol Expressway extension shouldn&#039;t end under Hwy 87, but should turn south (via tunnel or narrow, single-track right of way) along 87 to Ohlone-Chynoweth Station, then continue to the Almaden station on what is now a too-short, single-car shuttle. 

Second, I drive 85 to get through or around San Jose, and while I am no fan of transit running down freeway medians,* it&#039;s too bad VTA didn&#039;t think to build a line west from Ohlone-Chynoweth to Los Gatos - they&#039;d have been there 10-15 years earlier than the Vasona line, and while it wouldn&#039;t have given as direct a connection to downtown, it would have provided a useful cross-valley link (much as 85 does for drivers), and it would now make a fine transit loop. Would of course be harder to retrofit now, but tougher lines have been squeezed into place (i.e. San Diego&#039;s elevated Mission Valley line along I-8).

*There was a brief golden age of the Guadalupe Light Rail line when the tracks were in operation but the freeway had not yet been built, so the rail line provided a unique link and the stations were peaceful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great map!</p>
<p>Two missed opportunities. First, VTA&#8217;s Capitol Expressway extension shouldn&#8217;t end under Hwy 87, but should turn south (via tunnel or narrow, single-track right of way) along 87 to Ohlone-Chynoweth Station, then continue to the Almaden station on what is now a too-short, single-car shuttle. </p>
<p>Second, I drive 85 to get through or around San Jose, and while I am no fan of transit running down freeway medians,* it&#8217;s too bad VTA didn&#8217;t think to build a line west from Ohlone-Chynoweth to Los Gatos &#8211; they&#8217;d have been there 10-15 years earlier than the Vasona line, and while it wouldn&#8217;t have given as direct a connection to downtown, it would have provided a useful cross-valley link (much as 85 does for drivers), and it would now make a fine transit loop. Would of course be harder to retrofit now, but tougher lines have been squeezed into place (i.e. San Diego&#8217;s elevated Mission Valley line along I-8).</p>
<p>*There was a brief golden age of the Guadalupe Light Rail line when the tracks were in operation but the freeway had not yet been built, so the rail line provided a unique link and the stations were peaceful.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fritz: yes, I do, hence the choice of the word &quot;theory,&quot; since these kinds of projects get proposed as theories and then abandoned once the realization sets in there&#039;s no money. VTA&#039;s tendency to abandon any non-BART transit project is something I&#039;ve written about here before on a few occasions. The #10 bus already makes those connections, in any case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fritz: yes, I do, hence the choice of the word &#8220;theory,&#8221; since these kinds of projects get proposed as theories and then abandoned once the realization sets in there&#8217;s no money. VTA&#8217;s tendency to abandon any non-BART transit project is something I&#8217;ve written about here before on a few occasions. The #10 bus already makes those connections, in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fritz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well done on that map!

You know that VTA already said the SJC people mover isn&#039;t going to happen, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well done on that map!</p>
<p>You know that VTA already said the SJC people mover isn&#8217;t going to happen, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra V.</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexandra V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW, what a map!  Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, what a map!  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: thamsenman</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thamsenman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. This map even further illustrates how insane Bart to San Jose really is...it completely bypasses the major job/tourist/living corridors of San Jose..utterly ridiculous.

Good job Eric! =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This map even further illustrates how insane Bart to San Jose really is&#8230;it completely bypasses the major job/tourist/living corridors of San Jose..utterly ridiculous.</p>
<p>Good job Eric! =)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6469</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Steve!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,

It&#039;s wonderful to have you &quot;back.&quot; And the map is positively mesmerizing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s wonderful to have you &#8220;back.&#8221; And the map is positively mesmerizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2009/01/06/south-bay-track-map/#comment-6467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, anonymouse, I appreciate your taking the time to write in.

I&#039;m aware that there are many layout changes afoot for the SC/SJ area, that you&#039;ve mentioned. I should note briefly that the purpose of including planned/proposed extensions in the first place wasn&#039;t ever to be a complete documentation of future track changes (though I suppose it could be). I figured most people would probably be interested in infill stations and brand-new lines, so I sort of decided at some point to leave out double tracking type projects, and hopefully to still keep the map legible. These are obviously still important projects though, so they&#039;ll probably be added in later. Likelihood to be built actually wasn&#039;t really a factor, because yes, you&#039;re definitely right -- on that basis, projects like adding the fourth CC mainline track should be included. And who knows if we&#039;ll ever see Alum Rock LRT during my lifetime, at this rate. Incidentally, these types of changes are what I had in mind when I noted that in the post that details may be added in the future. They might just get added when they&#039;re built, maybe sooner, since they&#039;re easy enough to add. That said, I probably won&#039;t bother to fix Cahill till that&#039;s done :)

As for the VTA downtown track detail: &lt;i&gt;thank you&lt;/i&gt;. The little segment of track you&#039;re referring to I had actually originally inserted, but the program I&#039;m using is a bit unstable, and it keeps losing bits of track I&#039;ve added, often just a line or two here or there (sometimes way more though, unfortunately), and then I don&#039;t notice the minor omissions till much later. That is actually why I&#039;ve already uploaded 4 separate versions in the past 24 hrs, I keep noticing little bits that went missing. Thank you for pointing out that missing connection, I will fix it later today and upload a new version, and then add a comment here when the update is posted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, anonymouse, I appreciate your taking the time to write in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware that there are many layout changes afoot for the SC/SJ area, that you&#8217;ve mentioned. I should note briefly that the purpose of including planned/proposed extensions in the first place wasn&#8217;t ever to be a complete documentation of future track changes (though I suppose it could be). I figured most people would probably be interested in infill stations and brand-new lines, so I sort of decided at some point to leave out double tracking type projects, and hopefully to still keep the map legible. These are obviously still important projects though, so they&#8217;ll probably be added in later. Likelihood to be built actually wasn&#8217;t really a factor, because yes, you&#8217;re definitely right &#8212; on that basis, projects like adding the fourth CC mainline track should be included. And who knows if we&#8217;ll ever see Alum Rock LRT during my lifetime, at this rate. Incidentally, these types of changes are what I had in mind when I noted that in the post that details may be added in the future. They might just get added when they&#8217;re built, maybe sooner, since they&#8217;re easy enough to add. That said, I probably won&#8217;t bother to fix Cahill till that&#8217;s done :)</p>
<p>As for the VTA downtown track detail: <i>thank you</i>. The little segment of track you&#8217;re referring to I had actually originally inserted, but the program I&#8217;m using is a bit unstable, and it keeps losing bits of track I&#8217;ve added, often just a line or two here or there (sometimes way more though, unfortunately), and then I don&#8217;t notice the minor omissions till much later. That is actually why I&#8217;ve already uploaded 4 separate versions in the past 24 hrs, I keep noticing little bits that went missing. Thank you for pointing out that missing connection, I will fix it later today and upload a new version, and then add a comment here when the update is posted.</p>
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