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	<title>Comments on: BART to San Jose (Volume 2): The Shadow of the Past</title>
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		<title>By: November 2008 Election: No, No, No on Measures B, C, and D (Santa Clara County) &#171; Transbay Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>November 2008 Election: No, No, No on Measures B, C, and D (Santa Clara County) &#171; Transbay Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This last point should be carefully considered: building BART will attract new riders (though not nearly as many as projected), but cutting VTA service will mean losing current riders; it is no [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, there&#039;s a varied collection of funds that is funding BART to Warm Springs and Santa Clara, including local sales tax measures whose proceeds could be applied to other projects. As I explained in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://transbayblog.com/2008/10/27/bart-to-san-jose-volume-4-alls-well-as-ends-better/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last post&lt;/a&gt; in this series, BART threatens other important 2000 Measure A projects like Caltrain electrification, so the money could be applied towards that, and improving other corridors with BRT or light rail.

Incidentally, this whole discussion of closing the rail gap between Fremont and SJ Diridon actually began years ago with a commuter rail option; then, when San Jose politicos seized on BART instead, it was as though all other possibilities had disappeared. In an ideal world, BART to SJ would be canceled and replaced with rather frequent rail service, along the lines of the Caltrain Metro East plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, there&#8217;s a varied collection of funds that is funding BART to Warm Springs and Santa Clara, including local sales tax measures whose proceeds could be applied to other projects. As I explained in the <a href="http://transbayblog.com/2008/10/27/bart-to-san-jose-volume-4-alls-well-as-ends-better/" rel="nofollow">last post</a> in this series, BART threatens other important 2000 Measure A projects like Caltrain electrification, so the money could be applied towards that, and improving other corridors with BRT or light rail.</p>
<p>Incidentally, this whole discussion of closing the rail gap between Fremont and SJ Diridon actually began years ago with a commuter rail option; then, when San Jose politicos seized on BART instead, it was as though all other possibilities had disappeared. In an ideal world, BART to SJ would be canceled and replaced with rather frequent rail service, along the lines of the Caltrain Metro East plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra V.</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2008/10/06/bart-to-san-jose-volume-2-the-shadow-of-the-past/#comment-6117</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF and Oakland definitely have the density for more stations...
I have a feeling that perhaps the Peninsula stations don&#039;t do so well, because the people who can actually afford to buy homes there and work elsewhere, have the money to drive their cars and pay for expensive parking lots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF and Oakland definitely have the density for more stations&#8230;<br />
I have a feeling that perhaps the Peninsula stations don&#8217;t do so well, because the people who can actually afford to buy homes there and work elsewhere, have the money to drive their cars and pay for expensive parking lots.</p>
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		<title>By: BART to Silicon Valley &#124; San Jose Metblogs</title>
		<link>http://transbayblog.com/2008/10/06/bart-to-san-jose-volume-2-the-shadow-of-the-past/#comment-6115</link>
		<dc:creator>BART to Silicon Valley &#124; San Jose Metblogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to read here, here, here, and here. Related posts:To BART or not to BARTDowntown Light Rail Closure This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty much for the San Jose extension. Yes, the Millbrae extension was pretty much a failure, but like you said above, that was mostly due to Caltrain having faster service. I think sine there isn&#039;t really another fast transit option for getting from the East Bay to San Jose, BART is the best choice, simply for the reason of excitement. Sure, Caltrain Metro East may be a more feasable and cheeper option, but then again, say you are an average Joe who drives his car to work every day, and doesn&#039;t use transit that much. Would you be more likely to take BART, or Caltrain Metro East?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty much for the San Jose extension. Yes, the Millbrae extension was pretty much a failure, but like you said above, that was mostly due to Caltrain having faster service. I think sine there isn&#8217;t really another fast transit option for getting from the East Bay to San Jose, BART is the best choice, simply for the reason of excitement. Sure, Caltrain Metro East may be a more feasable and cheeper option, but then again, say you are an average Joe who drives his car to work every day, and doesn&#8217;t use transit that much. Would you be more likely to take BART, or Caltrain Metro East?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused about what might be done if BART to San Jose is canceled.  Does VTA have a pot of money they could now use (e.g. for Caltrain Metro East and some portion of Caltrain Electification)?  Or does BART have money they could use (e.g. for infill stations or downpayment on a second tube)?  Or is it some of both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused about what might be done if BART to San Jose is canceled.  Does VTA have a pot of money they could now use (e.g. for Caltrain Metro East and some portion of Caltrain Electification)?  Or does BART have money they could use (e.g. for infill stations or downpayment on a second tube)?  Or is it some of both?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complete folly.  BART in the south bay is akin to commuter rail.  We already have Caltrain on the peninsula and more feasible rail options on the other side of SJ (existing and planned).

Spend the money on in-fill stations, a new tube and more lines in SF and parts of Oakland where the density and demand co-exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complete folly.  BART in the south bay is akin to commuter rail.  We already have Caltrain on the peninsula and more feasible rail options on the other side of SJ (existing and planned).</p>
<p>Spend the money on in-fill stations, a new tube and more lines in SF and parts of Oakland where the density and demand co-exist.</p>
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