Comments on: City of Berkeley v. Voters of Berkeley Averted http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/ Transportation and urban planning in the San Francisco Bay Area Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:43:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: November 2008 Election: No on Measure KK (Berkeley) « Transbay Blog http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-6206 November 2008 Election: No on Measure KK (Berkeley) « Transbay Blog Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:26:29 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-6206 [...] vehicles (of which transit-only lanes are a special case) on its city streets. Measure KK also violates the transportation element of Berkeley’s General Plan, which quite clearly and unambiguously provides for the [...] [...] vehicles (of which transit-only lanes are a special case) on its city streets. Measure KK also violates the transportation element of Berkeley’s General Plan, which quite clearly and unambiguously provides for the [...]

]]> By: Eric http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-5475 Eric Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:03:06 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-5475 MTC has gotten its act together in the past couple of years in terms of putting funding teeth behind better land use, and San Leandro did produce a TOD strategy (<a href="http://www.ci.san-leandro.ca.us/CDTODOview.asp" rel="nofollow">link</a>). San Leandro is, as you say, auto-oriented, but it's also inner ring -- eventually, these sorts of transit villages are going to need to be built adjacent to most or all BART stations. And the <i>Daily Planet</i>'s misreporting notwithstanding, I, too, have been worried about the San Leandro leg of the project -- but the whole stretch would not include dedicated BRT lanes in any case. As for light rail: it would have been nice, but it's not happening any time soon. MTC has gotten its act together in the past couple of years in terms of putting funding teeth behind better land use, and San Leandro did produce a TOD strategy (link). San Leandro is, as you say, auto-oriented, but it’s also inner ring — eventually, these sorts of transit villages are going to need to be built adjacent to most or all BART stations. And the Daily Planet‘s misreporting notwithstanding, I, too, have been worried about the San Leandro leg of the project — but the whole stretch would not include dedicated BRT lanes in any case.

As for light rail: it would have been nice, but it’s not happening any time soon.

]]> By: PvtEntrepeneur http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-5471 PvtEntrepeneur Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:42:34 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-5471 San Leandro really has been dragging its feet on the Bus Rapid Transit -- while they haven't officially gone on record voicing its opposition to the dedicated lanes down East 14th Street, there's a majority on the City Council who simply don't like the idea -- much like their Berkeley counterparts. The difference is there isn't an organized group in San Leandro like there is in Berkeley voicing their displeasure (and throwing out stupid recommendations to the AC Transit board.) I highly doubt there will be any form of dedicated roadway in San Leandro, the city residents are exceptionally car crazy and it's an epitome of suburban America. Unless it starts investing heavily in Transit Oriented Development in and around its two BART stations, I don't see any movement on the transit front in the city anytime soon. As for an East Bay light rail system, I'm certainly a fan of the idea, but when you have a transit district that seems to shun the idea and can barely build support for a rapid bus line in the community, I'm not holding my breath until I see a return of the Key System. San Leandro really has been dragging its feet on the Bus Rapid Transit — while they haven’t officially gone on record voicing its opposition to the dedicated lanes down East 14th Street, there’s a majority on the City Council who simply don’t like the idea — much like their Berkeley counterparts. The difference is there isn’t an organized group in San Leandro like there is in Berkeley voicing their displeasure (and throwing out stupid recommendations to the AC Transit board.)

I highly doubt there will be any form of dedicated roadway in San Leandro, the city residents are exceptionally car crazy and it’s an epitome of suburban America. Unless it starts investing heavily in Transit Oriented Development in and around its two BART stations, I don’t see any movement on the transit front in the city anytime soon.

As for an East Bay light rail system, I’m certainly a fan of the idea, but when you have a transit district that seems to shun the idea and can barely build support for a rapid bus line in the community, I’m not holding my breath until I see a return of the Key System.

]]> By: Berkeley City Council May Try to Halt Anti-BRT Ballot Initiative « Living in the O http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-5469 Berkeley City Council May Try to Halt Anti-BRT Ballot Initiative « Living in the O Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:28:01 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-5469 [...] Try to Halt Anti-BRT Ballot InitiativeRoomful Express Furniture on DIY Bus Stop FurnitureCity of Berkeley v. Voters of Berkeley Averted « Transbay Blog on Berkeley Initiative Could Endanger Future Transit ProjectsEric on Berkeley City Council May [...] [...] Try to Halt Anti-BRT Ballot InitiativeRoomful Express Furniture on DIY Bus Stop FurnitureCity of Berkeley v. Voters of Berkeley Averted « Transbay Blog on Berkeley Initiative Could Endanger Future Transit ProjectsEric on Berkeley City Council May [...]

]]> By: Berkeley BRT Ballot Initiative City Council Update « Transbay Blog http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-5467 Berkeley BRT Ballot Initiative City Council Update « Transbay Blog Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:56:36 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-5467 [...] Transbay Blog « City of Berkeley v. Voters of Berkeley Averted [...] [...] Transbay Blog « City of Berkeley v. Voters of Berkeley Averted [...]

]]> By: Eric http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-5466 Eric Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:48:04 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-5466 Knowing Berkeley, I wouldn't be surprised. The real point of opposition is not what arguments are being put forward, but the taking away of lanes from cars and forcing cars into neighborhoods (instead of, you know, forcing people to leave cars at home). This would happen with either rail or BRT, unless you had an elevated line. Then again, decades ago, Berkeleyans voted to tax themselves to replace an elevated BART line with a subway. Actually, I would've rather seen this as LRT instead of BRT (as I'm assuming you would, as well), to get a local rail network going in the East Bay. At this point, I really just want the ROW, but even that is looking like a pain. Knowing Berkeley, I wouldn’t be surprised. The real point of opposition is not what arguments are being put forward, but the taking away of lanes from cars and forcing cars into neighborhoods (instead of, you know, forcing people to leave cars at home). This would happen with either rail or BRT, unless you had an elevated line. Then again, decades ago, Berkeleyans voted to tax themselves to replace an elevated BART line with a subway.

Actually, I would’ve rather seen this as LRT instead of BRT (as I’m assuming you would, as well), to get a local rail network going in the East Bay. At this point, I really just want the ROW, but even that is looking like a pain.

]]> By: The Overhead Wire http://transbayblog.com/2008/07/08/city-of-berkeley-v-voters-of-berkeley-averted/#comment-5465 The Overhead Wire Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:41:44 +0000 http://transbay.wordpress.com/?p=616#comment-5465 I wonder if things would have gone differently if it were rail. Not that there wouldn't be opposition, but do you think there would have been a ballot measure against it and voters voting? I wonder if things would have gone differently if it were rail. Not that there wouldn’t be opposition, but do you think there would have been a ballot measure against it and voters voting?

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